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apparently I can’t build an airlift system

3:31 pm in Getting Started, made from scratch (without a kit), posts with pitcures!, pumps, questions, Seeking Advice by JulySundryGrandeur

Help. :(

At first I was building it my own way, which had its own gigantic problems. But then I switched to something that looks basically identical to how the kits and kit instructions work. (The current ones with the long instructions — V 3 modular if I’m not confused.) It managed to get a tiny bit of water going up the system, but mostly it’s just bubbling at the bottom. I checked and there’s no leak that I can find. The water is just coming out the air needle, going down the tube somehow, and bubbling out the little gap at the bottom where the air’s meant to go in. I made sure the whole thing was as straight up and down as I could get it. I originally had a straw around the tube holding it straight (with its own angled bottom to let water in), but the bubbles were pushing water up that instead, which was just insulting.

The “add media” option isn’t cooperating with my computer, so I just stuck these on imageshack. Hopefully that’s not a problem for anyone.

closeup of the cap
picture of the airlift parts when taken apart

You are looking at:
-1 basketball inflation needle
-2 segments of standard aquarium tube — I have no idea where you get the rigid stuff
-1 joiner/adapter thingy that goes between mini and normal aquarium tubes
-1 useless blob of silicone caulk

Ideas what I’m doing wrong?

Understanding MAMA v3′s plumbing

2:53 pm in questions, Version 3.0 Modular Airlift Columns by James Moon

We built a starter window farm earlier this year, and now I’d like to build a bigger one to cover the entire window. (I actually have a really huge window.)

But I’m having trouble understanding the assembly instructions for plumbing, specifically at and after bottle cap assembly (methods A, B, and C).  At the end of the instructions for each method, it ends with putting the other end of the airline tube into the pump.

I must have missed something or am not understanding how this works, but if you have four or more columns, how do they share one pump? In the full assembly picture, it looks like each doesn’t plug into the pump but rather into something with a loop above it. I can’t seem to find mention of this in the instructions.

Can someone please enlighten me?

Cardboard boxes as light covers for my reservoirs

11:21 pm in posts with pitcures!, Projects in Process by Louise from Quebec

Here are my homemade cover boxes for my upper reservoirs. They block the light to help prevent algea build-up inside the reservoirs and they are better looking also.

First photo : View of one cover box insides from the rear. I removed the most part of the back of the cardboard boxes to slip them over the reservoirs. I also cut a large vertical slit into the front panel to let the tube escape through and to have a view of the water level in the reservoirs. I lined the inside with black paper to make the it darker.

Second photo : both cover boxes are in place over each reservoir. Beside the front slit, I glued a band of white paper and marked the water level in litres to help me monitoring the nutrient solution level. I covered the outside visible surface with photos cut from seed catalogs.

Easy way to attach t-joint outside the bottle?

12:28 pm in Education, Help the project by testing this, kits, Materials and Resources, Uncategorized by Brian White

This is an easily available attachment for pop bottles here in Canada. They are available in garden centers for watering plants.  This means the the entire windowfarm can be made from pop bottles and still get excellent airlift.

Your water tube would go down in a J shape to the t- joint to prevent back flow into the reservoir.

If you cut the “showerhead” top off, you can use an upturned pop bottle as your reservoir for a windowfarm and  attach the water pipe to a t-joint  outside  the bottle  and at whatever submergence you choose.  I think this can make life easier for everyone.

Attachment for pop bottles

Plant watering attachment for pop bottles

Update on the construction of my clay pot windowfarm

6:42 pm in posts with pitcures!, Projects in Process by Louise from Quebec

Photo 1 : I figured out a way to expand my windowfarm, building a last bottom row of four containers, sitting independently on the shelf right under the window. Now, I’ve got 22 containers in this window.  The tubing system in the upper part is still a mess remaining to be addressed, though. But the slow-drip irrigation in itself is working fine. My 8 litre reservoir usually lasts 6 to 10 days without needing to be refilled. It feeds 2 columns. My smaller 600mL bottles feed one column each. They last 24 to over 48 hours.

Each morning, I open the 8L reservoir flow valve to release one drop every two or three seconds. Then, the change of pressure in the big reservoir automatically slows the dripping flow to a stop after a few hours (I estimate two to four hours).  For my small bottles, though, I open the valves to maximum until every clay pot is dripping abondantly (one minute is enough), then I ajust the flow to 1 drop per 2 or 3 seconds and close the valves 30 to 45 minutes later.

After supper, I make the same operations. I always make sure all valves are shut before going to sleep. My plants don’t seem to suffer from this schedule, but they are still small and it’s winter. The true test will come with summer heat, I guess.

Twice, I experienced leaving all of them without irrigation for 24 hours, and I couln’t see any difference. The 50-50 mixture of clay pellets and rock wool seems to work very well to keep a good moisture level.

Photo 2 : These new containers needed to be irrigated too, so they are positionned right under each existing column, but they also need to drain into a big bottom reservoir, big enough to collect the upper reservoirs’ whole contents.

Photos 3 and 4 : These terracotta pots came with their insides covered in a glazed coating as well as the other pots. But their draining hole is located on the side of the pots. Just perfect for what I had in mind ! First, I cut four lenghts (2,5 in. long) out of a very rigid straw (the kind of stick they use to tie a balloon on). I put some plumber tape ( white and very thin, my husband says it’s teflon) several layers around its middle to make it thicker and I wedged it in place in a screwing motion, through the draining hole. Then, I put aquarium silicone sealant around the straw and the draining hole, inside and out. I experienced leaking problems, so I had to make touch-ups to seal them completely.  Finally I connected the straw to a lenght of 1/4″ blue silicone tubing (bought in the aquarium section in my neighborhood’s pet shop).

Photos 5 and 6 : I put the pots on their shelf and directed the tubing down into the plastic bucket sitting under the shelf. (I still need to find a neet way to secure these tubes so they won’t get out of the bucket inaverdently and spill water on the floor.)

Photo 7 : The story of a mistake. My first attempt at collecting water involved these big tubes. I put two of the small blue tubes inside this big one, trying to imitate the draining system on a washing machine. But the blue tubes ran horizontally before plunging vertically into the big transparent tube and the water level inside the terracotta pots would have to build up to about 2 inches high before gathering enough pressure to push its way through the blue tubes. It made a sudden flushing effect and when both containers were flushing at about the same time, the water would flow back up the transparent tube and spill on the floor. Only then did I figure out a most obvious and simple way to make things work. Now, the draining is almost instantaneous. Only a couple spoonfuls of water sit at the bottom of the pot before the water drains.

Photos 8, 9 and 10 : As a next step, I wanted to isolate my plants’ roots from the entrance of the draining tube. I didn’t want to take the chance of clogging it. So, I needed a container inside the pots, and I had to make sure it would not block the water’s evacuation. I used two different methods to make a “platform” in order to raise up the containers a little. First, I cut three slices off a cork and layed them down the bottom of one of the square clay pots. In the other, I cut the bottom part of a strawberry plastic crate and put it upside down in the square pot, making a side notch to give room to the tubing.

Both pots drain well, so if nothing nasty develops on the corks,  I’ll replace the plastic crate with cork.

Photo 11 to 14 : For the inside pots, I found these 2,5 in. “earth-friendly, biodegradable pots, made of compressed straw, rice husk and bamboo, taking one year to degrade after exposure to elements. ” 37 cents each at Walmart. I would rather find permanent pots, but I wanted to avoid plastic, so I’m buying myself some time with these ( I figure at least six months).  I used a square of geotextile material to line the inside of the pot. It will prevent the roots from reaching the draining tube, hopefully. I then filled the pot with 50% wool rock (including 2 cubes hosting each a sprout) and 50% clay pellets, and finally, I cut the excess geotextile.

Photos 15 and 16 : Four plants in place : one Buttercrunch lettuce and one parsley in the left container. I figure I have plenty of time to eat the lettuce before the parsley is fully grown. One question, though : will the remaining roots of the lettuce develop into a problem for the parsley or affect badly the water’s quality ?  In the second pot, same strategy : one lettuce and one nasturtium. I needed to train a mesh from under the pot above, because the distance is too big between both pots and the drops of water were splashing around. It was necessary to do the same elsewhere in my windowfarm because the developping foliage can divert the water outside the pot, sometimes.  I discovered that leaving some mesh to lie on the clay pellets distributes the moisture much more evenly on the pellets. But I’m not sure it’s necessary anyway. The only drawback is that with the meshing, the water makes no more dripping sound. Snif.

Photos 17 and 18 : An update on my peas and lettuce growth. The photo of the peas is overexposed, sorry.

Setting up my windowfarm… finally!

12:54 pm in Getting Started, Materials and Resources, Nutrients, Nutrition, posts with pitcures!, Projects in Process, questions, Seeking Advice, Uncategorized by BionicMel

I have set up the 4 bottles, and now I’m working on my airlift. I’m trying to do the T version instead of the air needles. But I’m having trouble getting the air to lift the water and not escape through what should be the water intake tube.

Any advice for this system? I’m going to go and cut a longer piece of tube and see if that makes a difference.

Thanks,

Melissa

-EDIT- (20 minutes later)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/58467192@N06/5378581924/

So the longer tube completely helped! There is no air escaping from the system at all. Now my poor tomato plant that was without water all night is getting some.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/58467192@N06/5377983157/

I purchased the white frame from ikea and it was around 20$. I plan on having 3 or 4 columns with a string of lights in between the columns. This frame will allow me to move the window farm around and close my blinds at night. I’m going to raise it up to window height once it’s all installed.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/58467192@N06/5378580404/

Here is a short video of my airlift in action.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qER-HLCHcE

-EDIT- (Later that day…)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/58467192@N06/5378590143/

So my tomato is definately looking good! http://www.flickr.com/photos/58467192@N06/5379181542/in/photostream/
I have also transplanted a broccoli plant to the top of the column. http://www.flickr.com/photos/58467192@N06/5379182328/in/photostream/
My seedlings are starting to sprout! http://www.flickr.com/photos/58467192@N06/5378589329

I made another change to my system… I zip tied the coil of tube in the water so it is easier to remove and install. http://www.flickr.com/photos/58467192@N06/5379179122

Also, nutrients were added to the solution. I added part 1 and part 2 of the general nutrients, and I also added some “maximum plantroids” because it says:

“Plantroids Super-Vitamin Thrive Enhancer stimulates plant branching, increases photosynthesis and cell division. Plantroids also helps reduce stress as well as stimulates root growth”.

Just a warning about CFLs… I dropped one and it smashed into a million tiny shards. Took a while to make sure I got all the little pieces.

Can anyone give me advice on how to put pictures in my post, rather than just links? Thanks.

by Tony

Shower Curtain Rod w/2L bottles

9:03 pm in Uncategorized by Tony

I thought the shower rod design http://our.windowfarms.org/2011/01/07/my-manhattan-windowfarm/ by Dave, @dhult was brilliant so I “borrowed” the idea for my next one.  I had an old shower rod laying around and it fits perfectly in my bay window.  My other two WFs use 2L pop bottles and so does this one.  The 4″ net pot fits in well into the 2L bottle.   My Home Depot had the ground clamp ($1.46), however it did not have that style pipe hanger and neither did the Menards store.  I had to improvise.  I used a 4″-5″ adjustable hose clamp ($1.49) in its place and drilled a hole in it to connect it to the ground clamp.

The other change that is different than my others is that I drilled a 1.5″ hole in the top of the bottles in stead of the 1″.  The 1″ allowed the bottles to be screwed together for some additional support, but the extra support is not needed here.  The 1.5″ hole allows the neck of the upper bottle to fit deeper into the lower bottle making the column a little more compact and easier to disassemble.

I still have to cover the bottles and resevoir to keep out the light, but I have to figure out what to plant next.  Overall, I like this design more than my last two since it has the advantage of easily taking the resevoir out.

Shower Curtain Rod WF Overall View

Shower Rod mouting w/Pipe Clamp

2L Bottlw w/4" Net Pot

 

1/18/2011 Update – Here is a video of the pump in action.    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKjkFIcBLj4   This is the same “Tee” style pump I have been using on all my WFs.   There’s a good picture of it in this post.  http://our.windowfarms.org/2010/12/04/strawberries-9-months-new-wf-first-snow-of-the-year/  The water does go up and around the rod pretty well and its fun to watch.  The total lift is only 42 inches.  Later on when it is full of algae it will be less interesting and I’ll probably straighten it out then.

by Adam

Plumbing Problems with bottom reservoir

5:29 pm in Getting Started, How-Tos, Materials and Resources, Uncategorized, Version 3.0 Modular Airlift Columns by Adam

For version 3.0 system.

I am having difficulties with the end cap to the bottom bottle (reservoir).

I have a .6″ check valve but getting the parts for method B and C is near impossible.  The Industrial Specialties company with the plastic threaded bulkhead only ships supplies if  the  if you spend $25 and I don’t need that many bulkheads so I am not going to order from them.  Some parts for method B and C both cannot be found at Home Depot so I am kinda stuck.  Method A is the easiest route but states that it is only for a .8″ check valve.  Does anyone know why I cannot use Method A for a .6″ check valve?  What are the difficulties?  Thanks.

by Joe

Container suggestion – flower pots

3:57 pm in Uncategorized by Joe

It occurred to me the other day that terracotta pots would be a good container for a window farm for the following reasons:

1. They already have a wide top opening and a center hole in the bottom.
2. Terracotta is a tough material that won’t degrade when exposed to sunlight or water.
3. They are opaque which will discourage algae growth.

The disadvantages are:

1. They are heavy, unless you use plastic flower pots.
2. They reduce the amount of recycled material used in construction.
3. Terracotta can chip, crack, or break, which would cause leaks.

Borrowing From Everyone!

2:03 pm in Getting Started, Projects in Process by Ruth MOODY

When I first saw this website, I thought it was great on so many levels. My group of friends store food ,and growing some indoors year-round fits in with that concept of thinking about the future ,when the country may suffer food shortages. As a 6th grade teacher, I am going to have the students build a class windowfarm of their own.It will be fun to see how they troubleshoot! My setup  is not an airlift system. I am experimenting with a reservoir on top that drips down 3 containers to a receptacle at the bottom. I’m using a perlite/vermiculite  mix without net cups that I prime with water first. The drip is very slow and I hope it will stay wet enough until I get home from school to recycle the reservoir. I won’t have plants in the farm until I get the drip speed down. I want to thank the person who suggested using a 5 gal. reservoir on a single outlet pump. I have a double outlet pump for my next windowfarm which is an airlift. I couldn’t find needles, so I used a ” T’ connector with a single outlet and regular airline for the airlift tube. The middle of the “T” is connected to the check valve and air supply, the other ends are connected to the airlift tube. The “T” comes in where the needles would have been. I’ve been able to get 5 feet of lift with this “make-do-with-what-ya-got” setup. Thanks to everyone for  all the great ideas and comments and to Britta and company for the movement.