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Hola Dayana,
Para que el agua no vuelva hacia la bomba de aire has de poner una válvula que solo deje pasar el aire en una dirección (hacia las botellas). En las tiendas de acuarios venden estas válvulas, que son muy comunes.
Saludos
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Hola Javi,
No he logrado encontrar Maxsea y los lugares donde se puede pedir por Internet, te meten un buen palo por el envío. Estoy probando otros nutrientes pero por el momento no he encontrado nada que de buenos resultados
La bomba pille una genérica por eBay, de estas de dos vias para acuarios.Slaudos
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For Beginners: 1 year ago · ViewHey,
Karen and I have been trying to make our plants grow for a while but failed continuously
It’s kind of difficult for us as in Spain we haven’t been able to find the recommended nutrients and are quite confused about the proper feeding plan, watering, etc after following various recommendations.We want to start again from scratch and would really appreciate if anyone could point us to an existing step-by-step guide about the maintenance for our plants, where it is explained how often the plants should received water and during how much time, how many spoons of nutrients should we add, etc.
Thanks
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Good. I’m gonna try with the hanging string trick.
Another question: how often should the pump be activated? Following the windowfarms instructions we intially set it to be activated during 15 minutes every 15 minutes, but I have heard other people saying that this is too much.
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Hi Jesse,
Thanks for your advice. That really helps newbies like me
I have just uploaded some pictures of the plants I just took:
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Thanks again Brian. As in the other post, I guess the problem is with the nutrientes. I’m having difficulties finding the recommended nutrientes in Spain and I’m just trying different types that probably are not enough.
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I remember the base ppm before adding the nutrients was around 250 ppm, but I have to add a lot of nutrients (6 coffee spons) to reach something close to 1000 ppm so maybe all this damaged the roots.
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tedi posted an update in the group
For Beginners: 1 year, 1 month ago · ViewRoots not expanded. We have tried adding different plants but once in the WindowFarms bottles, the roots are never expanded and keep condensed in a very short space as they were when being growing up. Are we doing something wrong?
Roots in hydro don’t need to go searching for nutrients if theyre being dripped directly onto them, so i found i see a more condensed root mass. As long as theyre are getting bigger and plants are growing well, I would say it should be ok.
If theyre not thriving then maybe you have probs
Nutrients etc
Thanks again Brian. As in the other post, I guess the problem is with the nutrientes. I’m having difficulties finding the recommended nutrientes in Spain and I’m just trying different types that probably are not enough.
try vermiculture , compost tea, natural nutrients are always available somewhere.
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Thanks Jesse. This weekend we tried with the TDS and got it around 950 ppm but stil lthe plants are dying and probably because we added epsom salts a part of the nutrients. I’m gonna try without the salts…
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For Beginners: 1 year, 1 month ago · ViewHi,
I’m still trying to learn how much nutrients are needed to grow up my plants are these are always dying
I bought a TDS and right now it displays around 250-300 ppm on the nutrient solution. Is it too low? How much should it be? I read in a blog it should be around 700 ppm. If so, should I add more fertilizer or epsom salts?Thanks
Depending on what you grow, I run mine at around 900ppm and they seem like they could handle little more.
Thanks Jesse. This weekend we tried with the TDS and got it around 950 ppm but stil lthe plants are dying and probably because we added epsom salts a part of the nutrients. I’m gonna try without the salts…
Epsom salts are fine, I use them, just don’t go too overboard. Make sure you balance the pH to around 5.8 – 6.4, this range is safe for all plants and is good for optimum nutrient uptake.
is it an EC tester? EC tends to be twice as high as a PPM test.What I have been doing to great sucess:
Botanicare, it’s cheap and works better than any other brand I have used.
–10 – 15ml/gal Pro Growth formula
–10ml/gal Liquid Karma (kelp extracts help the plant utilize nutrition more effectively)
–5ml/gal Cal-Mag, contains Calcium, Magnesium(no need for epsoms if you use this), Iron, and other micro-nutrients. I don’t know if it contains sulfur, like epsoms, but it has loads of Magnesium and sulfur deficiency is not very common.
–5 – 10ml/gal Sweet. used on flowering plants during flower/fruiting
–2.5 – 5ml/gal Hydroplex (this is a Phosphorous and Potassium complex along with amino acids) this is good for flowering/fruiting–5ml/gal (GH)General Organics brand BioRoot, great stuff for the root zone, makes your roots fluffy and hairy, just like they should be
–drops of Thrive Alive Organic, this contains lots of Vitamins essential for healthy plants and helps plants recover from stresses like transplanting.
–Occasionally I’ll add a boost of Myco fungus to boost root health.
–Worm Juice from my worm composter, I add a bit when available, but it’s hot so don’t use too much. Worm juice helps with micro organisms and water soluble nutrition as well as a bonus of Chitin for spicy peppers which stimulates the pepper defense response, ie, spicy oilsJust make sure you are not doubling up on nutritional elements and you balance that pH, when in doubt, know whats in your products.
What all are you mixing, at what ratios?
Whats your base ppm from the water before adding nutrients…
Then check the value also after adding nutes.I remember the base ppm before adding the nutrients was around 250 ppm, but I have to add a lot of nutrients (6 coffee spons) to reach something close to 1000 ppm so maybe all this damaged the roots.
It’s good to slowly increase nutrition if you are worried, a sign of over ntrogen is curling of leaves and rapid funky light green growth. You want a nice medium pace of rich green growth. Some plants can be ”burned” by excess nutrition….
what are the symptoms? can you share a image in your OP?Hi Jesse,
Thanks for your advice. That really helps newbies like me
I have just uploaded some pictures of the plants I just took:
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/3555/img2398a.jpg
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/7571/img2399xt.jpg
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/9396/img2400i.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1032/img2401ko.jpg
http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/3462/img2402pg.jpg
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/1094/img2403m.jpgGlancing it looks like the crown of the strawberries is too low, it should protrude from the surface. The water shouldn’t drip directly on them so much. A string hanging from the upper bottle to the back of the net pot should be sufficient to divert the water a bit. Over-watering is easy with the strawbs.
Good. I’m gonna try with the hanging string trick.
Another question: how often should the pump be activated? Following the windowfarms instructions we intially set it to be activated during 15 minutes every 15 minutes, but I have heard other people saying that this is too much.
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Yo he buscado el Maxsea por todos lados, pero solo lo encuentro en eBay con gastos de envío desorbitados ($40). De momento estamos probando con guano y, aunque las plantas crecen bien, de golpe se mueren de un día para otro, así que dudo que estemos utilizando los nutrientes correctos.
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Barcelona – Finestres verdes: 1 year, 2 months ago · ViewHola,
Quins nutrients utilitzeu i on els aconseguiu?
Gràcies!
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After dropping some vinagre in the water the pH went down to 5 for some hours but then went back to 8. It does not seem to be a permanent solution.
Now I’m trying to find something to make the pH go down without using chemical solutions.
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That’s our first with the vinagre but I will post the result. So far, yesterday I added some drops and it seemed to be useless but after 2 or 3 hours the pH level dropped to 4. Today the level was back to 7,5 but lot of water was used. I assume the lettuces are unrecoverable now but we will try to learn about a bit managing correctly the pH level.
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Hi Joel,
Thanks for your response. This really helps!
pH – I have added some vinagre and the pH dropped to 6.
Over-watering – We’ve set the timer on the air pump to work each 15 minutes but maybe we misunderstood the instructions. I understand your point about watering the plants once per day when are young but once they start growing, how often would you recommend watering the plants and during how much time? I.e. flush water every 2 hours during 15 minutes each time.
Over-feeding – We will try adding nutrients every week and if it does not work, every two week.Cheers.
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For Beginners: 1 year, 3 months ago · ViewHi, we started our windowfarm one week ago and the lettuces were growing brilliant but suddenly one day in the morning we found that something wrong is happening and the leaves seems to be dying. The PH is 7-7,5, we put 1 teaspon of nutrientes (guano) each 3 days and the pump is enabled 15 minutes each 15 minutes.
See the pictures here:
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Hi tedi-
Your pH is too high. Plants prefer a slightly acidic environment – it facilitates uptake of nutrients. I’ve heard that an ideal pH is between 6 and 6.5. However, this does depend on the particular species. I’m not sure about lettuce.
Also, you may be over-watering and over-feeding. Most people add nutrients every week or two, and water once per day when the plants are young.
Hope that helps.
-Joel
Hi Joel,
Thanks for your response. This really helps!
pH – I have added some vinagre and the pH dropped to 6.
Over-watering – We’ve set the timer on the air pump to work each 15 minutes but maybe we misunderstood the instructions. I understand your point about watering the plants once per day when are young but once they start growing, how often would you recommend watering the plants and during how much time? I.e. flush water every 2 hours during 15 minutes each time.
Over-feeding – We will try adding nutrients every week and if it does not work, every two week.Cheers.
Let me know how the vinegar works in your system. I’ve been using lemon juice to lower my pH, but I’m curious as to how vinegar compares.
Hope everything goes well.That’s our first with the vinagre but I will post the result. So far, yesterday I added some drops and it seemed to be useless but after 2 or 3 hours the pH level dropped to 4. Today the level was back to 7,5 but lot of water was used. I assume the lettuces are unrecoverable now but we will try to learn about a bit managing correctly the pH level.
After dropping some vinagre in the water the pH went down to 5 for some hours but then went back to 8. It does not seem to be a permanent solution.
Now I’m trying to find something to make the pH go down without using chemical solutions.
Hi guys!
I read somewhere that the use of vinegar to lower the pH is not that good because plants don’t know to absorb acetic acid. The result is that acid getting more and more concentrated in the nutrient solution, which may become hurtful for the plant.
As with fish I use to breed, discus fish that prefer acid water like the plants, I always dropped the pH with acid (muriatic or also called hypochloric) found in pool supply companies here in the USA. Since this stuff is really dangerously corrosive if spilled however, general hydroponics made a pH down w the same acid but much safer. I do not know how they dilute it but it works and is cheap and will last a long time. If its safe for fish it def safe for plants IMHO (inalaays kepts my fish tanks clean as well so do not know about the bonding it will have in densely organic water). Its worth checking out. My plants in the system prefer general hydroponic fertilizer three part solutions and unused their pH down w out issue. But again, I am brand new w growing plants sooo….
I’ve got one bottle of pH down to make nutrient solution more acidic. It is composed of to acids : nitric (with Nitrogen) and phosphoric (with Phosphor) acids. Nitrogen and Phosphor seem to be elements plants need to grow or bloom.
My guess is that chemical components that stay in the nutrient solution (and don’t get used by the plant, like acetic acid) may alter the EC and prevent the plant from absorbing the ones it needs.
(my 2¢)
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Gràcies a tu pels consells Àngels!
Doncs sí, cau justament sobre les fulles i salpica una mica fora, però sembla que de moment les freses i l’enciam no es queixen. De totes formes, estem provant a veure què tal aquest sistema i si va bé, mirarem d’inventar alguna cosa més
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spain and latin america: 1 year, 3 months ago · ViewAquí va un vídeo de nuestro setup: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whBM-3mP7IM
hola, muy chevere tu sistema, soy nueva en este tema y me gustaria saber como se hace el airlift por que se me viene el agua a la bomba de aire, mi opcion fue colgar la bomba para que la manguera colgara o diera hacia abajo y no suba el agua
graciasHola Dayana,
Para que el agua no vuelva hacia la bomba de aire has de poner una válvula que solo deje pasar el aire en una dirección (hacia las botellas). En las tiendas de acuarios venden estas válvulas, que son muy comunes.
Saludos
gracias
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Aquí va un vídeo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whBM-3mP7IM
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Hola en el siguiente link hay informacion en español, saludos
http://www.depadresahijos.org/INCAP/Hidroponicos.pdf
La receta a continuación, es una receta genérica que brinda los nutrientes esenciales para el crecimiento de hierbas, especies, tomates, zanahorias, etc. La receta no brinda los mejores resultados para ninguna de estas especies (ya que no es optimizada para ninguna especie en particular) . Pero es muy útil si riegan varias plantas con la misma solución ya que brinda muy buenos resultados para todas las plantas en su sistema hidropónico.
Las concentraciones que obtendríamos con esta preparación serían.
Nitrógeno 155 ppm
Fósforo 70 ppm
Potasio 256 ppm
Magnesio 49 ppm
Calcio 125 ppm
Azufre 67 ppm
Hierro 4.9 ppm
Manganeso 1.97 ppm
Boro 0.7 ppm
Zinc 0.25 ppm
Cobre 0.068 ppm
Molibdeno 0.05 ppm
Las sales que deben usar y las cantidades de cada sal se mencionan a continuación (para 100L de agua).
Nitrato de Calcio 67.567 g
Sulfato de Magnesio (Sal de Epsom) 49.494 g
Nitrato de Potasio 35.679 g
Dihidrógeno Fosfato de Potasio (KH2PO4) 30.728 g
Sulfato de Potasio 6.684 g
Quelato de hierro (EDTA) 4.9 g
Sulfato de Manganeso 0.606 g
Ácido Bórico en polvo 0.4 g
Sulfato de zinc 0.068 g
Sulfato de cobre 0.026 g
Molibdato de Sodio 0.012 g
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Las masas deben pesarse con presición a las milésima de gramo para las sustancias por debajo de 1g y con precisión a la decima de gramo para las sustancias sobre 1g.
Excelente Silvy, gracias por la información!